In an unexpected development, on 11 September UBC decided to submit an application for further submission on my application for documents – what’s called a “sur-reply” – and in response my lawyer Clea Parfitt and I filed a “sur-sur-reply” on September 17.
Backing up a bit: Generally the application process goes like this:
- Any party has the right to file an Application (a request to the Tribunal to order something), and the Tribunal must consider it (with certain limitations);
- The opposing party has the right to file a Reply (or Response) to the Application, and if they do, the Tribunal must consider it;
- The applicant has the right to file a Response (or Reply) to the Reply, and the Tribunal must consider it.
This had been the process so far with my Application for Documents and Costs. With respect to UBC’s Application to Dismiss, that process has been on hold at step 1, because in this case I have the right to full disclosure of ALL relevant documents prior to fighting about case dismissal. My Application for Documents must be resolved first because my right to a fair process depends on full disclosure (as we argued in our 30 August 2019 Response to UBC’s Reply, or step 3 above).
However, there are additional optional steps:
4. The opposing party may file a new Application to Reply to the Response to the Reply, and at the same time the proposed Response to the Reply (“sur-reply”) itself, BUT has no right to do so (e.g. the Tribunal can simply ignore it when considering the Application in step 1), and cannot repeat earlier arguments;
5. The applicant may also file an Application and a Response to the sur-reply, called the “sur-sur-reply,” BUT has no right to do so (e.g. the Tribunal can ignore it too), and again cannot repeat earlier positions, but must respond to new issues.
On September 11, UBC submitted an application for sur-reply. It claimed fairness required the Tribunal to consider the sur-reply, because it argued I advanced new arguments in my Response of 30 August (step 3), that I articulated for the first time relevance of documents in the 30 August Response, that I made the “surprising” argument that the temporal scope of the complaint should be expanded, that I should not be allowed to attempt to “correct” what they argue were the deficiencies of my Application for Documents (step 1), and that I sought to put the entire operations of UBC on trial and set myself as the general supervisor.* Further it argues again that I did not establish relevance for the subject matter and scope of documents prior to January 2014, and that my request for documents had changed in a way UBC could not possibly expected to anticipate, and that my Application for Costs (step 1) should be dismissed because I did not have “clean hands” when I did not disclose relevant documents I possessed but which I attached to my 30 August Response. UBC claimed that it had no idea that the documents I attached to the 30 August Response existed.
To be honest we did consider not submitting a sur-sur-reply. It was clear that the tone of the sur-reply is fairly hysterical and rather light on convincing argumentation, and it seems likely to merely annoy the Tribunalmember, whose position on document disclosure has been fairly clear to us – we fully expect he is going to order UBC to disclose relevant documents without redactions. It is likely, then, that the Tribunalmember will simply ignore the sur-reply and to submit a sur-sur-reply would just run up costs for no reason. However, in the end we decided that UBC’s accusations of misconduct by me and its twisting of our arguments required correction.
On September 17, we filed our sur-sur-reply. We argued that fairness required our sur-sur-reply to be considered. We pointed out that our position that documents prior to January 2014 were arguably relevant and should be disclosed was not a new position for us and that we previously provided the rationale for documents as necessary to set context for the period of UBC’s liability. We pointed out that our 30 August Response (step 3) was not advancing new arguments, but was responding specifically to issues raised by UBC in its 9 August Reply (step 2) – which is the point of the Reply/Response process, and doesn’t mean my argument was changing so much that UBC couldn’t be expected to know what I wanted. We pointed out UBC did not bother to correctly establish proper grounds for its sur-reply, so the sur-reply should be dismissed.
With respect to the documents I acquired and used without prior disclosure, we argued that my relatively recent acquisition of them isn’t the basis for either a sur-reply or to negative our Application for Costs. We acknowledged the obligation for ongoing disclosure. However, in a big case like this, it is typical for a party to gather a number of documents to disclose at once rather than sending them over in a trickle. Such a practice is certainly not equivalent to the grossly inadequate disclosure UBC provided, which it conceded was incomplete in its 9 August reply. We argued we should not have to rely on the luck of obtaining relevant documents from other sources to prosecute our case. Finally, we pointed out that UBC’s claim it had no idea of the existence of the documents is both a lie and an admission it did not canvass all the employees it should have, and UBC should be sanctioned. In any case UBC did not provide any legal support whatsoever that supposedly inadequate disclosure by me means that my Application for Costs should be wiped out.
To date UBC has still not submitted a list to us of relevant documents it claims it is willing to disclose further. It did have time to write the sur-reply quickly so we know the lawyers have time to work on the file.
Unfortunately I continue to expect this to be the only development for some time. Clea suggests we may wait six months for the Tribunalmember’s decision; in a different case of hers, her client has been waiting over a year for a decision Application for Documents, though I believe that case is with a different Tribunalmember.
The sur-reply and sur-sur-reply are now up on the “Documents” page.
*My reaction was L O L to this. As though I angle to do a high six-figure job for free! It was clearly inspired by annoyance that I had explicitly stated the manner of retaliation against members of the History Department who supported the Class Members, which UBC hopes to continue to keep out of public knowledge.